Message Re: Les écouteurs-boutons, oreillettes & C° 27 Déc 2017 13:50

Elle donne envie cette paire, les retours sont correcte.

Vivement tes premières impressions.

Message 27 Déc 2017 13:59

Les BK m'ont passé l'envie d'acheter d'autres boutons... Je n'ai pas grand chose à leur reprocher.  :headphone:

Message 27 Déc 2017 14:16

Ils sont solide et facile à driver?

Message 05 Jan 2018 22:42

Solide oui, facile à driver faut un peu de puissance quand même si tu veux leur rendre honneur

Message 16 Mar 2018 09:24

Tiens, je n'avais pas vu la question...
bakdus a écrit:Ils sont solide et facile à driver?

Super solide (la coque, le câble, le jack : costaud !!). Les miens n'ont pas bougé d'un poil et pourtant ils servent beaucoup ! (c'est surement ce que j'écoute le plus depuis quelques mois).

Je dirais "assez simple" à driver, mais comme tous les bons écouteurs, ils sont encore meilleurs avec une bonne source. Néanmoins même sur le petit FiiO X1 ça rend déjà très bien, sur un DAP "MdG" comme le Pioneer XDP-X1 c'est excellent et sur le Cowon Plenue 1 c'était grandiose.  :p

Message 01 Aoû 2018 14:12

Je sais pas où poster ça pour le moment, (ya pas "intras moins de 100e"  :PP )
Quelqu'un les connait?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/shozy-hibi ... htning-iem

Message 01 Aoû 2018 14:48

Ce sont des intras, ça. Mais ce topic parle des boutons de la marque Shozy...  ;-/
edit : takumi059 les a => viewtopic.php?p=532650#p532650

Message 04 Sep 2018 20:05

Chaud sur la force. Les mk2 encore plus mais ça reste propre faut de grandes oreilles. Même si c'est pas le bon topic petites réponses

Message 21 Nov 2018 16:54

Je viens de recevoir une paire de Shozy BK en 2,5 mm... et je me demande pourquoi je les ai achetés. :(
Leur son est trop clair à mon goût et je trouve qu'ils manquent de corps, de plénitude dans le rendu des timbres. Leur signature est maigre, avec des graves sans soubassement et des médiums assez creux. En plus, que de sibilances ! Sur des oreillettes, surtout au prix où sont vendus les Shozy BK (pas loin de 200 € dans cette version), ce degré d'agressivité (ou de salissure) de l'articulation hauts-médiums/aigus est à mon sens inacceptable.
Les aigus sont beaux, en revanche, bien étendus et plutôt doux, sans la moindre stridence... Et le soundstage des BK me paraît par ailleurs assez exact, tant en termes de placement et de détourage des sources que d'étagement des plans en profondeur, ce qui leur donne un côté assez immersif.
Je ne les trouve donc pas totalement surévalués... mais beaucoup trop chers quand même pour ce qu'ils proposent.

Message 21 Nov 2018 17:04

Je préfère les ty hp 400 et surtout 650 pour certaines raisons aussi que tu évoques .....
Par contre les mediums du BK ne m'avaient pas paru si "maigre" que çà ........

Message 21 Nov 2018 17:07

DarkZunicorn a écrit:Leur son est trop clair à mon goût et je trouve qu'ils manquent de corps, de plénitude dans le rendu des timbres. Leur signature est maigre, avec des graves sans soubassement et des médiums assez creux. En plus, que de sibilances ! Sur des oreillettes, surtout au prix où sont vendus les Shozy BK (pas loin de 200 € dans cette version), ce degré d'agressivité (ou de salissure) de l'articulation hauts-médiums/aigus est à mon sens inacceptable.


What ?? On n'écoute pas les mêmes boutons, vu ce que tu en écris !  :8 Signature maigre ?!? Alors là je suis......... interloqué. Notamment parce que je n'ai lu cela dans aucun retour jusque là ! ;-/ Le fit, ça te convient niveau coque "Yiun" d'habitude ?  Car je n'ai jamais subit de sibilances sur ces écouteurs, mais jamais. :-?

DarkZunicorn a écrit:Je ne les trouve donc pas totalement surévalués... mais beaucoup trop chers quand même pour ce qu'ils proposent.


Je n'ai rien entendu de mieux, à moins cher du moins (je n'ai pas écouté de boutons plus cher), de mon côté. Autant d'avis que de personne. Et pour moi ils justifient totalement leur prix : qualité de finition, qualité du câble, durabilité, qualité sonore,... Tout cela justifie le prix pour moi. :jap:

bourbon kid a écrit:Je préfère les ty hp 400 et surtout 650 pour certaines raisons aussi que tu évoques .....


J'adore les HP650 !! Ce son plein et whisky/canapé, rhooo :(l) Des 650 dans des coques Yuin, je signe direct !  :mrgreen:

Message 23 Nov 2018 14:01

Comme on a un peu parlé des BK sur l'autre topic, je relance celui-là avec quelques autres tests pour compléter le "tour du web" à leur propos :

https://everydaylistening.net/2017/06/2 ... fine-wine/

Tonality –

The BK exemplifies Shozy’s analogue but tasteful tuning as the most natural sounding earbud I’ve ever heard. And in terms of realism and musicality, the BK also bests some much more expensive in-ear earphones too. The BK is very balanced and just slightly U-shaped, with bass having the most emphasis. It is tonally in-between the slightly mid-forward 1More E1008 and the more bass focussed Cygnus which I found to be a really nice sweet spot. Mids are very even and quite full-bodied. While they aren’t thick, closed off or muddy to any extent, they make a lot of in-ears sound thin and unnatural by comparison.

Bass –

The low-end on the BK is well tuned, agile and snappy with great PRAT. Buyer’s need to consider that the BK doesn’t have a huge bass emphasis, rather, bass is slightly lifted from neutral and organic in nature with a touch of deep/mid-bass focus. For my tastes, bass quantity and emphasis is pretty spot on and I think a lot of listeners will find the same. The Cygnus does sound fuller for those who prefer a bit more low-end, though it’s more mid-bass focused response is looser and lacks the fabulous texturing of the BK. Being an earbud, the BK has just average sub-bass extension and no real slam to the lowest notes. Of course, few earbuds really hit that deep, but a few models like the E1008 do have slightly more extension. That being said, every frequency above that is really well done, the BK has a very linear bass response with minimal flab or bloat, far less than the Cygnus before it. The low-end is also very tight without leaning out, something the E1008 struggled to pull off.

When listening to Earth, Wind and Fire’s “In the Stone”, the BK’s provided fantastic texturing that easily bested both the Cygnus and E1008. The BK also had the fastest response with great pacing and very impressive definition, making the Cygnus sound a bit sloppy by comparison. They also possess great bass detail retrieval, the BK’s low-end was considerably tighter and more defined than the more expensive 1More Quad Driver for instance and bass resolution was fabulous with great clarity to individual notes and sweeping tones alike. Similarly, when listening to Arcade Fire’s “Everything Now”, a song that has a slightly more monotonous bass line, the BK did a great job discerning details that the Cygnus skipped over entirely. So besides extension, there’s not much to dislike with the BK’s bass response. Of course, the BK is lacking the resolution of more expensive in-ear models like the 64Audio U3, but the earbud provides a truly sensational mix of linear tuning and quality that dismantles similarly priced in-ear models and appreciably outperforms similarly priced earbuds too.

Mids –

Despite having such a great low-end, the BK’s midrange might be their most impressive aspect. I’m very picky about my midrange tuning, so many earphones come off as unnatural, thick or thin. I think a lot of earphones are too focused on impressing with their pounding bass and soaring highs that they forget the majority of the information in most songs is contained within the midrange. The BK immediately impresses again with its linearity and realism. While mids do carry a slightly darker tone, they have great clarity while retaining impressive amounts of vocal body; they don’t sound as thin as the Magaosi K3 Pro, Fiio EX1 2nd Gen and even the 1More Quad Driver. This is probably the most notable aspect of their performance, that ability to present so much clarity while retaining that organic, natural tone. Lower mids are slightly warm with just a hint of bass spill though male vocals never sound muddy or thick, just slightly more full-bodied.

Listening to Commodore’s “Easy”, the BK produced clear, forward vocals with nice layering and projection. They were slightly more balanced than the more bass-forward Cygnus and clarity, realism and timbre were all improved on the BK. Upper mids sit just slightly behind lower mids and retain that same kind of full-bodied presentation. The BK absolutely flatter female vocals, they have the best upper-midrange tuning I’ve heard on an earbud. Even thinner Asian vocals, which sound a bit thin and nasal on the Cygnus, sound lush on the BK while retaining clarity and detail. Similarly, thicker western vocals avoid sounding chesty or unconcise, the BK’s are more tonally consistent than the Cygnus and more natural while also sounding cleaner and clearer. Listening to “Erase” by Hyolyn, Jooyoung and the BK produced great separation between main and backing vocals and both male and female vocals were delightfully balanced. The BK also created a very pleasing rendition of strings that was smooth and unfatiguing but also clear and composed, their midrange is tonally excellent.

And quality wise, the BK’s are similarly impressive, the BK’s are more transparent and revealing than the very technically proficient 1More E1008 while also being more tonally pleasing. Resolution is also good but they are missing a touch compared to similarly price in-ears, most apparent with layering and the precision of background details. Detail retrieval is very good, the BK isn’t as aggressive in its detail presentation as the slightly peakier Cygnus, but I wouldn’t consider them to be laid-back either. Listening to George Michael’s “Faith” and the BK did a much better job than the Cygnus at reproducing each guitar strum and detail. And though the Cygnus had more forward treble details, their outright detail retrieval and resolution clearly lagged behind the more expensive BK. The E1008 told a similar story with less resolution and considerably less clarity than the BK. And while the E1008 has similar detail retrieval to the Cygnus, the BK is easily the more detailed, resolving earbud.

Treble –

The high-end is where the BK falters a bit, perhaps it is a limitation of the earbud form factor at this time as earbuds don’t do end to end extension particularly well in general. The BK is among the best earbuds I’ve heard in terms of high-frequency response though they don’t extend and resolve quite like in-ears around this price do. Extension is just good in the grand scheme of things, they certainly extend further than the Cygnus and similarly to the dual driver E1008, but that really high-frequency detail is either recessed or missing. That’s not to say that the BK is missing detail in the slightest and this isn’t noticeable in the majority of songs, but the BK does have a roll-off at the very top. Tonally, treble is very natural as with the rest of the sound, notes have nice body and texturing to cymbals, strings and wind instruments is very pleasing. Lower and middle treble detail retrieval is also impressive, they aren’t super aggressive in their presentation, but a slight lower treble bump does give them just a little extra crispness. Middle treble, in particular, is considerably more resolving than the Cygnus, which rolls off sooner and the E1008, which gets uneven in the highs.

The BK doesn’t possess huge air but they do have some sparkle and treble sounds generally clean and separated. High-frequency resolution still can’t match really good in-ears around this price, I still prefer the response of the RE-600 for instance, but the BK’s linearity and texturing can be favourable to the peakier Quad-Driver and the very lower-treble forward Pinnacle P1 depending on preference. They do improve when removing the foam covers though the tonality is skewed bright with a significant loss of low-end that kind of ruins their splendid tuning. Some may prefer this sound, however, and there are plenty of different covers users can experiment with to achieve their desired sound. Of the Heigi donuts, full foams (without removed centre), Monk+ foams and 1More silicone rings, the pre-installed covers were the most “correct” to my ear though high-end extension and resolution was compromised. It’s a trade-off and listeners who prefer a more mid-forward sound will definitely enjoy the BK with the Monk+, 1More or perhaps no covers at all.

Verdict –

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So the BK is not a cheap earbud, but in a sense, it does provide pleasing value. They offer a unique but catching aesthetic, supreme long-term comfort and a very mature sound that is a rarity even among vastly more expensive products. Shozy might not have the most cutting-edge products, but one thing they nail is tonality, arguably just as important if not more so. The BK actualizes their philosophy as a tonally excellent earbud that possesses some really nice quality too. Bass texture and tightness, in particular, are more akin to that offered by the $300 Oriveti New Primacy than the in-ears and earbuds around $150-200. Though the New Primacy offers more sub-bass and slightly more resolution still, the BK comes in at just half the price. Their midrange is also an outlier around this price, they are simply so natural sounding without compromising clarity and detail presentation. This does come with some caveats, the BK’s don’t have the most atmospheric treble response, they need a nice source to flourish and provide almost zero noise isolation; but if you love the earbud form factor or intend to use them in quiet environments, the BK’s provide an exceptional auditory experience.

Verdict – 9/10, Shozy’s newest earbud boasts an expertly crafted build that exhumes exclusivity and an organic, slightly analogue tuning that thoroughly impresses with its realism. If you’re looking for a versatile, balanced and comfortable earbud, the BK is a fantastic choice.


https://www.headpie.net/2018/04/shozy-b ... uille.html (par Mimouille) :

The BK has a reputation for slight warmness, but I find it is quite close to what I consider as my reference for a neutral / natural tone. Bass is punchy and well controlled, not as tight as certain top IEMs like the VE8, but still good considering this costs 20 times less...plus it has a nice dynamic texture.

Mids are very transparent but some might feel they lack body. I would say this is the main downside, the price of openness versus IEMs : the sound is overall less fleshed out, a bit thinner, has less body.

Despite the slight thinness of sound, highs remain quite smooth and unagressive. There is a hint of sparkle, but I would day the BK has the airiest highs out there. In my opinion it doesn't manner, because the overall sound is open by design, so the highs do not need to enhance that. They are great as they are and allow for great naturalness of sound on instrumental pieces with many strings for instance.


https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/com ... and_quick/

Shozy BK - 16ohm 2.5mm balanced plug variant w/multi hole medium density full foam ($170-190 RRP, paid $165 second hand)
Build
Very nice. Although the shell is a basic plastic pk shell, it's got a lovely matte black paint finish. The cable is sleek and the brown/grey tint keeps it looking sleek and professional. The braid is extremely tight with 8 cores/wires. It can be prone to some memory/springy effect but that's because of how tight knit the braid is. I really love the look and feel of this cable and the earbud as a whole portrays a sense of classic styling. The plug is very high quality metal contructed.

Comfort
Unbeatable comfort here. Light weight, excellent shell size and fit. Light and sleek cable. Perfect really.

Sound Signature
Balanced-with low mid emphasis. Linear response that emphasises the low mids but keeps the rest of the spectrum pretty neutral.


Sound

Bass is well rounded and has moderate punch but could use slightly more sub bass emphasis/extension. Overall the bass remains present but never overpowering with Good texture and control.

Mids take on a linear approach but emphasis the low mids for a fuller thicker midrange timbre. EQ this out or use a brighter source to balance the mids out more. The focus is clearly on a natural/analog sounding tonality here. There's a certain dry quality to vocals and a very honest portrayal of instruments.

Treble is neutral and very light and airy up top. It's more of a delicate-airy presentation than a powerful-highly extended approach. There's a slight edge to the lower treble to give it some bite, but it's definately not a bright presentation overall remaining very natural-neutral.

Soundstage is on the more intimate side of medium. Although using some mild EQ or the foams I mention above the separation is good enough to keep the sound uncongested. There is slightly more width than depth. Stereo separation and panning of sounds are quite accurate. Depth layering is mediocre at best, but again can be improved with the foams used above. Imaging is very natural and accurate, filling the space between ear to ear rather than just residing on either end of the ears.


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Sound:

– Stardust is a fairly bassy earbud out of box, subbass and lower midbass is surprisingly prevalent. Lot of impact, bass quality is good for price but a bit “wooly” when compared to Andromeda (admittedly tough comparison for Stardust). More bass impact and cleaner bass than both Zen and Monks.

– Strong mid-focus. Vocals and strings sound great on these with a rich timbre and balanced sound. I feel that mids are the strongest part of this this earbud. Mids blows all VE models I have out of the water. Zen’s recessed midrange gets really noticeable on anything with vocal emphasis, and Monks mids are better balanced, but not as smooth.

– Treble-wise, there feels to be a bit of treble-roll off but nowhere near as bad as VE Zen. Treble also more even than VE Monk. One niggle is that lower mids (esp. guitars) was not the most clear relative to the rest of the FR on some J-indie songs I was testing. This is reflective with the slight congestion I found on other tracks.

In general sound signature I’d feel would look like this: \^_ (elevated bass, mid emphasis, flat/slightly rolled off treble). Their clarity is great for the price range, around UE 900s level. Stardust is not the most friendly towards poorly-mastered recordings though (one Musiq Soulchild house remix I was listening just turned into pure adfsfdksflsdf in terms of how mushed up everything sounded).

Overall, Shozy Stardust has a much more coherent sound signature than any VE product I’ve tried. The build is great, although the accessories are slightly lacking. They are the best earbud I’ve used yet by a fairly significant margin, and quite in line with other IEMs/headphones around this price range. I don’t expect Andromeda level sound quality, but Stardust captures most of the wonderful tone on those with more bass and less treble emphasis. Hope you guys enjoyed this review!




Pas d'autres références, on commence à être bien complet là !  :P

Message 27 Mar 2019 13:01

Un retour de Zeduk sur les BK viewtopic.php?p=680214#p680214

ZeDuK a écrit:Après quasiment deux semaines avec les Shozy BK, je reste sous le charme.

J'avais eu du mal à supporter les boutons jusqu'à maintenant mais cette forme de coque est parfaite pour moi et la bonnette apporte un surplus agréable si bien que je peux les garder une demie-journée de travail sans problème.

Pour le son, j'adore cette sensation de casque ouvert dans les oreilles, ça respire !

Je les trouve équilibrés, plutôt bien timbrés, surtout sur les voix, et très rapides.
Au final, j'ai une sensation de restitution très musicale.


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Message 02 Juin 2019 10:03

http://www.shozy-hk.com/xb-earbud

Dispo à 49$ chez Penon Audio https://penonaudio.com/earphones/earbuds/shozy-xb.html

SHOZY XB High-Sensitivity Low Resistance Open Earbuds

Description
Special custom HIFI audiophile wire (imported 4-core single crystal copper, 1 core containing 26 0.06occ, overall small diameter, should be the most soft and comfortable cable in the world), imported solder.
The main components of wire are copper and silver, with a small amount of auxiliary tuning metal elements, a special weaving techniques.

Specification
Driver unit: φ14.2mm
Impedance: 32ohm
Sensitivity: 113dB
Frequency Response: 15Hz-28kHz
Cable Length:120cm
3.5mm plug fits for PC, mobile phone, tablet, mp3, etc.


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Message 15 Juil 2019 08:29

Ayé, j'ai des Shozy Stardust BK (etc... ?).

En premières impressions, ils confirment tout ce que j'avais pensé d'eux lors de notre 1ère rencontre :

- confort royal, la coque se loge littéralement dans le creux du cartilage de l'oreille
- les infras sont absentes, les basses timides
- corollaire, je les trouve plutôt clairs, surtout à mes oreilles abreuvées de SE5 ult et d'Odin
- Par contre, il y a masse détail et ça respire ! La dynamique semble excellente également, ils donnent envie de taper (bon non, en fait se balancer dans tous les sens)

Petite précision, je les ai reçus avec les bonnettes trouées, je ne sais pas si ça joue énormément sur la perception des graves/infras, sûrement un minimum.

Bref, tout ça pour dire rapidement que je n'ai aucune surprise par rapport à mon contact initial, et que s'il faut prendre le temps de s'adapter à cette nouvelle signature faisant la part belle aux mediums/haut mediums je dirais, c'est le type d'approche différente qui m'intrigue. Je me laisse donc quelques temps encore pour juger de ce qu'il en sera in fine.

Edit :

Et ça passe très bien sur le black metal crade et ultra mal produit de Darkthrone.